How is it, the whole of the winter sports on Eurosport, the commentators managed to pronounce all of the European names without having to resort to OTT pronunciations?? How about a thread in praise of Rob Hatch? My favourite is still CK, with his jokey, relaxed style. A lot of the time, people think we should just talk and not get excited. But I was also getting quite annoyed by a lot of people in the industry who, in the first two or three weeks of this, said it. He helped develop the Endura, NetApp (became Bora-Hansgrohe) and MTN-Qhubeka teams in their early days before becoming a staple on Eurosport. It makes sense when you find out that he was a languages graduate - Rob was in fact in his 4th year of Uni at Bangor when I started my 1st year there (also in the languages department). I needed a new internet connection. Tao Geoghegan Hart of The United Kingdom and Team INEOS Grenadiers Pink Leader Jersey / Sir Dave Brailsford, Rob Hatch broadcasting from his home studio in Mallorca in 2020, Highlights: Pogacar wins Stage 5 of UAE Tour before race cancelled, Rob Hatch in happier times alongside colleagues Sean Kelly, Brian Smith and Jonathan Edwards at the 2017 Giro d'Italia, 'There's no continuity between races' - Wiggins on Covid, Rohan Dennis - Giro d'Italia 2020, state 20 - Getty Images, Jai Hindley and Tao Geoghegan Hart | Giro d'Italia 2020, Jai Hindley, Tao Geoghegan Hart, Rohan Dennis | Giro d'Italia Stage 20, 'What a ride!' I think I only managed three bike rides during two Grand Tours I just didn't have the time. Log in or sign up for Facebook to connect with friends, family and people you know. In the end I had to go to Google to find out where it was and it was nothing like the way he pronounced it! Robert Hatch. For mine, Carlton is the perfect commentator for the early shift on long, flat grand tour stages. Everyone was looking around, hoping people wouldn't be sitting next to them. When would we all see each other again? Going on-site at the Tour had been ruled out: too complicated and too risky. And the other was just before that, when Katarzyna Niewiadoma won. Kirby is the most marmite commentator there is. With the joining up of GCN and Eurosport, hes now regularly seen across all coverage. For me, you need someone who can fill the dead airtime and Stephens is doing that very well in California. Over an Orval (Mitch Docker's favourite Belgian beer), we traded anecdotes about rounding off seat post bolts, indulged in some Pogaar-based Paris-Roubaix speculation, and . Nothing has happened so far.. It also receives support from Science in Sport. In 2015, audience numbers grew to 30,000 and partnerships were developed with The Telegraph and Eurosport. Im a Blackburn Rovers fan, but I used to watch Accrington Stanley when Blackburn played away. Heres what Birnie, a skeptic with the opinion that turbo trainers are instruments of torture, had to say about his first week of training with TrainerRoad: The first session was so engaging but I thought, Well, Im always enthusiastic for the first session, its the second or third one thats the problem. [Now] Im two rides in and already Im finding it really beneficial and different to anything else Ive ever done. In terms of the Grand Tours, I'd like them to all stay three weeks. And for me they got in the way a bit. She retired from racing in 2018 whilst at WNT and transitioned to a Marketing/PR role for the team. Without a subpoena, voluntary compliance on the part of your Internet Service Provider, or additional records from a third party, information stored or retrieved for this purpose alone cannot usually be used to identify you. Hatch says his prep for the Grand Tours will start in the autumn before and expresses frustration at the changes to the Giro d'Italia this year as he'd "done more prep than ever". The Service Course,[21] a new tech show by The Cycling Podcast launched in 2019 with YouTube star Keira McVitty and radio producer Tom Whalley. 'A natural born superstar' - Rob Hatch hails Biniam Girmay Eurosport pundit and commentator Rob Hatch gives his thoughts on Biniam Girmay's incredible win. It proved to be a great World Championships, but I disapproved of the fact that, when the conversations took place, the Worlds seemed to be immovable objects. Once you click onto hearing his penchant for listing riders, you cant un-hear it! Why? The podcast was given best podcast at the 2016 Cycling Media Awards. Spanish cycling journalist and communications manager for Lizarte, Fran Reyes provides insight during the Vuelta a Espaa coverage. That's as close as the Romford Pele ever got to continental sophistication. That performance is something we'll talk about for ever the way it came together it wasn't until the second rest day when, sitting down, I thought, hang on, he can win this. I've just been. But in those cases I think they should try to learn it for the next race he or she competes in. If we don't make it accessible to everybody then we're not going to get any more viewers. Now it's the best in the world: I've got 600 mega bites, fibre optics. I can understand the view on censorship, but I still think thats bad taste. And they both happened in the one day. To English people it is free. Launched in 2013,[3] weekly, hour-long episodes provide insight, analysis and often irreverent take on professional road cycling. We both ended up on the floor at one point. 101 Followers, 447 Following, 61 Posts - See Instagram photos and videos from Rob Hatch (@rob.hatch) rob.hatch. Send me the good emails, Copyright Diamond Publishing 2023. The Ardennes week would fit better alongside the hilly Italian classics towards the end of the season around the Worlds. It was just strange not seeing anyone not just my co-commentators, but the off-air staff such as production staff, technicians, managers. But given the situation the world was it, we were extremely lucky to be able to do some work, so that's not something I'd complain about. The bad thing, from my point of view, is when there's something you could have done better. To provide the best experiences, we use technologies like cookies to store and/or access device information. The one area Eurosport consistently come out on tops with is in HD picture quality. Smashing your head against a brick wall for an hour is no fun and it makes it hard to look forward to the next session. He has a first class degree in Italian (and French and Spanish), so I think he's a bit above 'Allo 'Allo level. Half an hour later, after McEwen had handed over stage 12 commentary to Hatch and Kelly, the Australian also issued a statement. But you can do yourself a favour thinking of something in advance. Most famous for winning the 2004 edition of Paris Roubaix, Magnus Backstedt had a long pro career. We met for a pre-dinner beer in the centre of Gent in the middle of Holy Week. Remember Domenico Pozzovivo going down [on Stage 3 of the 2015 Giro]? Sign Up. At the end of the Giro, for example, I spent hours the night before going through what I would say if Jai Hindley won, or if Tao Geoghegan Hart won. 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What happens when three renowned cycling journalists decide to jump in the saddle for an intense winter of structured indoor training? In early 2022, lead presenter Richard Moore died suddenly. But I'm not counting any chickens. Rob Hayles tries to grab the desk and keep it up while his BBC colleague Hatch just kept going like nothing had happened. You are using an out of date browser. Top 10 Audio AIPS Sports Media Awards 2018, Kilometre 0 by The Cycling Podcast, The Cycling Podcast Fminin, Explore by The Cycling Podcast, This page was last edited on 11 February 2023, at 00:00. Plenty for Froome to work on before Tour - does he have time to get it done? Ineos announce Giro line-up featuring Thomas, Geoghegan Hart & Ganna. She has done a lot of races paired with Magnus Backstedt this season. Follow. He'd been saving himself to ride for someone else, so there was the psychological shock there, too. A GCN spokesperson directed CyclingTips to McEwens Twitter statement when asked for comment from their commentator, while a further statement from the broadcaster was not forthcoming. The Cycling Podcast Presentation Hosted by Richard Moore, Lionel Birnie, Daniel Friebe, Orla Chennaoui, Franois Thomazeau, Rose Manley, Lizzy Banks, Tom Whalley, Ian Boswell Genre Sports Language English Updates Thursday Production Production Jonathan Rowe, Jon Moonie, Tom Whalley, Alex Adey, Paul Scoins, Will Jones, Adam Bowie Audio format I'd have still had them, but maybe at the end of the season. Gallery: Redemption for Mder and Bahrain Victorious on Stage 6 of the Giro dItalia, How to watch and live stream the Giro dItalia 2022, Giro dItalia 2023: Everything you need to know including route, favourites, how to watch and start list, The Education First Rapha x Palace kit goes on sale, with a twist. And we knew that one of two people was going to win the race. I had to work hard at going out for a coffee or a run. Then it became serious, very, very serious. Not for the first time they leave us in shock. Carlton Kirby Kirby is the most marmite commentator there is. @giroditalia. Conscious of the fact that we have viewers all over the world and that we were exclusive in both Australia and the UK I wanted to make sure their thoughts were represented. 2. Tour de France riders were expected to show solidarity with anti-racism messages at the start of the final stage of the Tour de France on Sunday, but the paucity of the gesture was striking. But in terms of the planning, I just thought the Monuments going up the Grand Tours, and the Grand Tours clashing with each other for a few days that should have been something that wasn't contemplated. And it would suit Pozzovivo's agrrrrrressive style of riding! Each expert has the same goals: They want to get faster and win the race against each other. The technical storage or access that is used exclusively for anonymous statistical purposes. You have to find the right language, read the race, have knowledge of your subject. Because that's the kind of race that forms a season within a season. But the atmosphere was eerie. The way it was this year, we decided early on to be honest with people, instead of trying to maintain the illusion that we were in France or at least actually all together. In 2013, he published Hunger, the long-awaited autobiography of Irish cycling legend Sean Kelly. Copyright 2015-2023 ProCyclingUK - All rights Reserved, 2024 Womens WorldTour Promotion/Relegation Standings, Jumbo-Visma win opening TTT of 2023 Vuelta Femenina, Shimano 105 Groupset: A Comprehensive Guide, Ally Wollaston wins Stage 2 and GC at Festival Elsy Jacobs. Every single bike race we watch has some commentator giving their spin on the action. I'm sure if you had the equivilant of Rob Hatch with a native language of german or italian but can speak several languages either fluently or professionally well, then they'd do the same. I think it added to the camaraderie and interaction between commentators and viewers this year that we disclosed where we were. A recent addition to the Eurosport team and the only female lead commentator (even if the name catches plenty out on Twitter). When a Grand Tour is on, I can't function as a human being because all my energy is tied up in the race. A few news articles started to appear about the peloton entering Malaysia. Stands accused of making Sean Kelly giggle during today's commentary. Is it fair to say you have a TV voice and a regular Rob Hatch voice? If he pronounces the names correctly you should be happy he does it like this. Amstel '19 was one of the greatest-ever races in the history of pro cycling The commentary in the finale from Rob Hatch, however, is also some of the greatest this sport will ever hear The passion & disbelief in his voice will always be associated with this iconic finale #AGR . Let us know what you think of the show in the comment section below. To ensure that, you need a good strong voice, otherwise it won't sound right. Hard to imagine Lloyd (for example) building the finishing excitement to exaltation. If you saw the Vuelta Ciclista Valenciana this season, you would have heard Jez and Ive also heard him in a couple other races on the mens side this season too. Meanwhile their YouTube content is unwatchable unless you are a fan of Top Gear. So Ill tell you again whos in the breakaway, reiterating how many kilometres to go, what the gap is. Everyone did their best and it was great that we could have as many races as we had. But there's a lot more behind the scenes. Mar 31, 2022. Carlton Kirby Kirby is the most marmite commentator there is. Rob Hatch. If you have a training question, submit your question for Jonathan to answer on the next episode of TrainerRoads podcast. You need your eyes tested if that's the case. So you feel quite a bit of pressure when that happens. My 10yo was asking me the other day why he pronounces all the 'foreign' riders with an accent but doesn't say Michael Matthews with an Aussie Twang. I worried it would be. If I had to make a criticism he is just that little bit too bland, a little bit more personality or as FF says emotion would complete the package. Find your friends on Facebook. English & Spanish (bilingual with regional accents) as well as Italian & French (fluent). His description of the city of Milan on the Giro was so 'passionate' I thought he. It wasn't until we got to mid-February and the UAE Tour that it was starting to really affect things. Weve seen it in so many different areas of sport since competition resumed, and we havent really seen it in cycling. To be honest, if I'd been approached before I'd have been too stressed to deal with it too wrapped up in doing the commentary. It's exhilarating when it goes well. The full replay of the days live coverage is usually made available online by early evening but stage 10 was missing. [1] : 227. Nothing wrong in commenting on that - it's a discussion forum after all. No one has yet reached an agreement why the racing was so different. The Cycling Podcast was recorded live with an audience at the 2019 World Championships.[16]. Jonathan Lee is a Level II USA certified cycling coach and the host of the Ask a Cycling Coach podcast. Ok, I'll accept if he speaks that language he'll do it naturally without thinking, still confusing as I'm having to re learn who's who and what teams are which. During stage 10 of the Giro dItalia, McEwen and Dan Lloyd were handing commentary duties back over to Rob Hatch and Sean Kelly after the latter pairs lunch break. But that wasn't their fault they were using new kind of headset that was extra sensitive. Sounds like it was a rider-initiated move, in conjunction with the CPA. You say it how you want I couldnt care less! Get access to more than 30 brands, premium video, exclusive content, events, mapping, and more. Currently, Moore, Birnie and Hatch are working through TrainerRoads Sweet Spot Base and Pursuit training plans to prepare for their big event. But I really enjoyed it and I really hope people enjoy reading it. GCN; GCN+ pass information . Or Vingegaard. Yep. For example, if somebody pronounced a French Martin like an English Martin, it would definitely take me a few seconds to figure out who they are talking about. Commentary may not be easy - but some (Harmon, Kelly, possibly Hatch) are better than others (Kirby, Stevens) - though currently none are terrible (late career Duffers) and some (Stevens) are new to the job and so it's probably fair to say they show potential. Everybody was there at the start with the public around them, what an image that would have been in Mantes la Jolie. A former national track champion, Hannah Walker spent years on the road racing as well. Almost exactly 48 hours later, as chatter on social media grew and clips of what had been said began to circulate, GCN issued an apology. I was thinking that Dan Martin should be Brummie with a touch Wicklow, loik ;-). Its frustrating at times you do feel like youre pissing in the wind with social media. Alison Jones. Rob Hatchis afreelance broadcaster that can be found commentating on cycling for Eurosport television, BBC Radio 5 Live, IMG Media and more. Has professional cycling missed the memo and the moment? I haven't done much writing in English. Does anyone have any idea how to achieve that with ESP? All rights reserved. Lionel Birnie isa journalist, author and publisher. Each commentator has their own style and you only have to listen for a few seconds to work out who they are. - Wout van Aert soloes to glory in Strade Bianche. Maybe take the opportunity to learn something instead of demanding the world be sanitized to your POV. It was while writing for the original London freesheet that he won the media TT at a Team Sky winter training camp, where Sir Dave Brailsford questioned how it was possible for a group of people to ride quite so slowly. Create a personalized feed and bookmark your favorites. I thoroughly enjoyed writing it. And the other was sort of between the two: semi-suspicious, bit of pity, the whole crossing to the other side of the carriage thing. But we have to cater pandemic or no pandemic for everybody's tastes and talk about things that even to us may sound basic. I'm not somebody who's done a lot of written journalism because I'm broadcasting for the whole year. Our French producers will say, If you dont show it, its censorship. Ive had this argument, going back to my work experience. His description of the city of Milan on the Giro was so 'passionate' I thought he was going to have an orgasm on air. In 2016, The Cycling Podcast team covered the Giro d'Italia for the first time, thanks to new sponsorship funding from Science in Sport. 6,355 Followers, 1,951 Following, 550 Posts - See Instagram photos and videos from Rob Hatch (@robhatchinsta) "We had been led to believe that there was going to be a show of solidarity with the Black Lives Matter movement. Dan Lloyd quickly moved the conversation on, McEwens comments were left unchallenged, but viewers had heard the 49-year-old. Increased coverage is provided at the Grand Tours (the Giro d'Italia, Tour de France and Vuelta a Espaa) where daily episodes are recorded at the end of each stage. And I needed to move into a bigger house to accommodate it all. Rob Hatch and Rob Hayles persevere despite their desk collapsing during commentary on the final moments of stage four of the Tour de France. Sean and I looked at each other thinking, This is a bit scary. Discussions during the "empty" kilometers are a thing of experience, imo. Were watching images and getting quite uncomfortable with the fact theyre being broadcast. Grounded from doing the job he loves, Rob Hatch thought outside the flat-pack box to set up a home studio in Mallorca where he managed to cover the Tour de France and Giro d'Italia for Eurosport. Do we really know what's going on in the heads of sportspeople? He was an absolute pleasure to watch. Robert Hatch is a game designer and writer who developed key role-playing game releases for White Wolf Publishing from 1993 to 2001. As a foreigner, I like him waaaaay better than Kirby. @SeanKellyCyclin @BriSmithy. I knew Id heard the voice before and the photo above gave a little clue. Felix Lowe hooked up with Hatch for a chat about the. I thought, visually, it was different. You have to have the voice. In the end, the last day was cancelled and we managed to get our flights pulled forward by a day. His latest cycling book, tape: the untold stories of the Tour de Frances defining stages, was published last June. My impression is that Hatch carries out the required role better than the rest of the personnel. View the profiles of professionals named "Rob Hatch" on LinkedIn. S1 Ep33. It's difficult to say you're going to ride like that, though. Laura Meseguer y Rob Hatch les ofrecen historias y anlisis del ciclismo desde dentro del pelotn profesional. I never minded him early on, but in more recent times I suspect he's been told by those higher up to be more excitable, esp in the finales - so now he's starting to yell himself almost into Kirby territory, nowhere near as bad, but I have found myself muting him on some of the finishes lately. The way that they rode was absolutely incredible. The Cycling Podcast features regular contributions from journalists Franois Thomazeau, Ciro Scognamiglio, Fran Reyes, Brian Nygaard and sports commentator Rob Hatch. Anyone whos watched the Tour Series/Womens Tour/Tour of Britain in person or was at the Harrogate Worlds will have heard Jez on the mic. Hatch tries to make everything exciting even when it clearly is not. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Only in cycling do we have to put up with indecipherable Italian, French and Spanish names of riders and teams! Date Day Stage Link Start time (BST). I can now watch both without getting distracted by bad commentry, which I can't with Kirby. He's very listenable. The technical storage or access that is used exclusively for statistical purposes. But it was Dennis who really did the damage that ride on the Stelvio physically and psychologically did the damage for the other teams. Yep, hopefully ES will see sense and make him their number one with Stephens / Smith as the backup team and Carlton demoted to tea making duty. I think everyone just got on with it the best they could. We know that Kevin Rza is a local rider here in Mantes la Jolie and he was going to lead them out. See more Domestique for the rider 16th on GC gets a puncture with 137km to go on Stage 8, "Dearohdearohdearofdearohdearohdear!". The full stage will soon be available in English without this section of commentary.. Talking about the days events and doing analysis with the touchscreen TV. 2023 Eurosport, a Warner Bros. Eurosport has a select core of lead commentators who find themselves describing the action we see. Someone died in a car crash at a motorsport event and the French wanted to show it. And, as Joanna Rowsell will tell you, I do tend to get animated. I tried to go through my notes and remember what happened each day. I have seen him defending these garbled pronunciations as 'respect', how about some respect for paying viewers! I think the biggest problem in our business is ego. He pronounces them like someone who is attempting to pronounce them correctly. All rights reserved. Having chosen foreign language stations for the Kirby classics, I have found myself switching back to Eurosport, (except for the infuriatingly frequent ad breaks) almost exclusively. All rights reserved. With nothing doing, Carlton Kirby still finds plenty to talk about and discuss, with the dad jokes aplenty too. So I do like being there, even if the travelling is tiring and you do want a break. The voices of the cycling commentators on Eurosport are beamed into our homes. But we are waiting and we desperately hope that something will happen. on every little minor mishap. Bear in mind that over the last decade I've lived in airplanes around the world. In terms of the calendar, there's a few things that I would have changed anyway before the pandemic. Read our interview with Hatch on arguing with French TV producers, talking posh and why people get angry about his pronunciation of Vincenzo Ni-ba-li here. 447 following. (function ($) { window.fnames = new Array(); window.ftypes = new Array(); fnames[0] = 'EMAIL'; ftypes[0] = 'email'; fnames[1] = 'FNAME'; ftypes[1] = 'text'; fnames[2] = 'LNAME'; ftypes[2] = 'text'; fnames[7] = 'TRUSER'; ftypes[7] = 'text'; }(jQuery)); var $mcj = jQuery.noConflict(true);
It may not display this or other websites correctly. Then I was in Spain and Orla was in Amsterdam, where she lives, at the Dutch Eurosport studio. The Grand Tour Diaries, the second book by the team behind The Cycling Podcast was released in November 2019. In terms of technique, those bits of commentary were the starting points for me. For me, being on site and travelling is the best thing. This clip is originally from 5 live Sport on Tuesday, 5 . He might be dead here. Then you start changing your tone. It increases the chance that you pronounce the names correctly should you ever visit the country. All three experts will be training roughly 3.5 hours per week until their big event, which is expected to take place the first week of March. It's part of the essence of the sport. Yes, it's hard to believe that Eurosport are going to turn from the sublime to the ridiculous. It was shortlisted for Irish Sports Book of the Year. I actually reckon my accent has got broader since I moved away. He reports on cyclings largest events. From what I've read on this forum, some people would pay good money for that, but I'd like to hear Messrs Hatch and Kelly too. Robert Hatch 41 subscribers 28 Dislike Share 7,659 views Dec 27, 2012 Cycling commentary reel by British Broadcaster Rob Hatch. Cycling interviews carried out live during the Giro d'Italia in 2010 & 2011, with excerpts from the Giro 2012 Presentation in Milan.Interviewer: Rob HatchIF . Im not a huge fan. When he is pronouncing names and teams in a peleton you might as well not bother listening it is just garbled gobbledegook! Certainly in the Giro you could start to see that the shadows were longer, the light was different, certainly the mountains were different. Youve gone in the fudge shop and youve consumed it straight away, McEwen chimed in. The Cycling Podcast has been nominated for several awards since 2016. Theyre always paired with an ex-pro to provide the colour commentary, with insights about the racing, learned through their time in the pro ranks. It might annoy people, but its proper broadcast practice. Monumental Mohori. There was talk of Spain, Ireland and the UK locking down. Past contributors: Matthew Beaudin, Ned Boulting, John Bradley, Caley Fretz, Rupert Guinness, Andy Hood, Matt Rendell, Owen Rogers, Owen Slot, Anthony Tan, Hannah Troop and Moeen Islam (avid fan of the show). Everyone knows that Rob Hatch is the guy who pronounces each foreign word ultra-correctly and that Carlton Kirby will be the one telling the dad jokes. Todays [workout]felt like going for a bike ride more than any turbo session Ive done before. Derrick Rae who does. The technical storage or access is strictly necessary for the legitimate purpose of enabling the use of a specific service explicitly requested by the subscriber or user, or for the sole purpose of carrying out the transmission of a communication over an electronic communications network. Making them shorter is a no-go because they're unique and the length is part of the test. The biggest problem in our business is ego: Rob Hatch Q&A, Lige-Bastogne-Lige 2023, one day monument, April 23 (men's), Eschborn-Frankfurt 2023, one day classic, May 1, Ronde van Vlaanderen - Tour des Flandres 2023, one day monument, April 2 (men's), Paris-Roubaix 2023, one day monument, April 9 (men's), Amstel Gold Race 2023, one day classic, April 16 (men's). Probably now the highest-profile commentator on Eurosport, the only criticism Rob seems to get is due to his perfect pronunciation of all words in all languages. From talking about spring classics to grand tours, hell also be seen in the studio after races. Cyclist: You seem to be recovering well after coming off your bike a few weeks ago in what your co-commentator Magnus Bckstedt called an NBF: Nothing But Face. He inspires such devotion that he has his own fan club, yet also is on the receiving end of a petition to get him sacked. How is it, the whole of the winter sports on Eurosport, the commentators managed to pronounce all of the European names without having to resort to OTT pronunciations?? Oh he's so so so much more pleasant than Kirby. Complaining about Rob Hatch pronouncing riders' names correctly is the equivalent of British holidaymakers complaining when people in France speak to them in French.
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