I think we overlapped at Cawood for a year. We knew Jimmy Meeks very well. People were practically hanging on it. Mikes Drive In was in Loyall. Even though life was very hard at times, it was filled with family and friends and its been fun thinking about them this morning. My mother grew up in Cumberland and knew tons of Creeches from up that way. Still have family there. We know at least one person whose mother was really their grandmother, and sister was their mother. I have resided in Knoxville, TN for 26 years but Eastern Kentucky will always be home because that is where my extended family and my husbands extended family continue to reside. I have all the respect in the world for the good people in Harlan county its rough with mines getting shut down and people loosing what they know best and thats coal Im sorry it rough that is a reason I moved but keep strong everyone in Harlan has a big heart and I promise they are some the best people u ever meet in ur life. We went to the movies most weekends and to every football and basketball game. To her credit this pretty city girl took these inconveniences in her stride and made this mountain man a very good wife. Thanks for your comments. And they were well respected. I dont know exactly when died, but it was sometime in the 1980s. I still tell people I am from Harlan because it brings instant recognition. Besides the accident of birth, we have certain commonalities: Harlan Countians can be found everywhere. You hit the nail on the head ~ Love this! Its called age, my friend. I was in Wallins Creeks all day Saturday visiting my niece and stayed at my Mothers in Rhea. But you also are basically running down the place you were born. I do find a lot of people think Harlan is Hazzard from the TV show, so they ask me if Harlan is in Hazzard county and if I knew Luke and Bo Duke???? John If you do so, you wont be called a bigot or a phobe of any type. John. Look at my blog post Adventures in Hitchhiking, and youll see a story about JImmy picking me up hitchhiking one night. If you dont, I cant fault you for that, either. There has always been tension between those who work and those who dont or wont. WebGames (Goals) 19101912, 19141915, 19171921. A bazillion of cousins to play with..mountains to explore..farm animals to learn about, a total difference than city life on a quiet street just across from Fort McPherson Army Base. He worked at Eastover for several years after the strike until Duke closed the mines. I grew up in Sunshine too. Nothing will get a hard-working coal miner or school teacher fired up like a discussion about those drawing a check. Thats how it was when I was a kid, and it hasnt changed. Did you live here? Many never leave it. Government checks. I have enjoyed these old memories!!! Now kids go to Harlan County High School which consumed Cawood, Evarts and Cumberland High Schools. Even though they have visited my homeland many times, they remain baffled by it. I was about 11-12 and I remember we played outside constantly. Disability checks. Ring any bells? I am from Wynntown, went to Evarts High School and live in Richmond Ky. My Dad taught English there for a long time (Mr. Creech). I am so grateful to the educators in Harlan who worked so diligently to open our minds, expand our thinking and develop our talents especially in music. It is funny how people from all over the Country know where you are talking about when you say you are from Harlan Co. and many of them visibly tense on that statement. Billy G. Williams. I remember Alafair. I loved it AFTER the mob left that came to my door the day I moved in, demanding to know Who are you and what are you doing here? I have been gone for 40 years I still have my Harlan Co accent and the kids have lost their Eastern Ky accent. They tease me that my accent changes when I cross the county line going back home :-). Im an outlander, living in Pulaski County. Elliott County is an exception becausewellyou just have to visit there to see. Been back very few times. Hi Julie, Yes I know your mother. Its nice to remember, though. Ha, Ha. Like to have all the money I spent in those places back! I was born and raised in Harlan County, from Jones Creek, graduated from Evarts High. You can see it in Google Street Views here: https://goo.gl/maps/QoyKa, Hey my cousin owned the fuzzy duck my papa had a poker house there and boot legged beer iwas raised in the first house coming down black mountain love it go back all the time, Right before you get to lynch golf course coming down black mtn there was a house to the right my great great grand pa had a saw mill there and built the house where my great grand pa lived then my mama got it love it there if I ever hit the lottery ill be back to live and put alot of people to work I love the mtns go there every christmas and summers thanks for the memories cool blog sorry for the grammer lol periods commas all the same to me it. loved her. My mother moved to Harlan County from Pike County at around age 12 and never left except to attend college. I made the mistake of posting a picture of Basil on a Harlan County Facebook page. My great grandpa ran a mill there. I loved living in Ages,Ky for the 2 years I was there!! Thats pretty much the consensus of people I know. I even remember who it was, but lets let bygones be bygones. Its county seat is Harlan. Itd be hard to sneeze and not hit a Creech with the spray. Sherry Jones Hall. I worked as a car hop from Denny rays rite out of high school. LOL. Congrats on a good job describing a little bit of what most folks cant imagine happened. Black lung finally got the best of him but legally these days black lung doesnt exist. My sister in law was born over in Leatherwood. Thanks again for the good read. My dad was a teacher at JACHS from 1962 to 1968. Good memories there. Have a cousin who lives in Evarts and cousins in middle KY. Take care! We only periodically had a movie theater, the fabulous Margie Grand in Harlan. While not as corrupt as his predecessor Boyle, he seems on his way down that pathor not. She agreed. Im pretty sure I remember Lance. Honestly, it took me years to adapt. The field is backdropped by some beautiful mountains, right at Tunnel Hill. Moo-ron. Stumbled across your post. They arent isolated enough. They go to other parts of the state or country and live as ex-Harlan Countians. When attempting to explain to someone where I grew up it was easiest to say somewhere between Harlan and Hazard. I actually grew up on Beech Fork in Leslie County. They just hang around and complain. She was stationed in Newport News, Virginia when the war ended. A few notes: The qualifications for Eastern Kentucky status include: I hail from Harlan County, the Eastern Kentuckiest of all counties. WebA coal miner silhouetted and barely visible in the darkness of a coal mine calls out a warning three times, fire-in-the-hole, the words all run together melodiously, letting all know hes about to detonate an explosion.So begins HARLAN COUNTY USA, 1976, 104 minutes Directed by Barbara Kopple, Winner Academy Award for Best Feature Documentary 1976. Youre probably thinking of Arthur Johnson. My grandfather worked in the Sunshine mines in the 20s and 30s. She always bought some, even though she was never sure if doing so was legal. Our football coach , Ed Miracle, was shot in the foot playing golf three weeks later . Im from Tennessee (save your boos for later, lol) and grew up in a very small, rural town with a lot of off the grid inhabitants. HA! I lived in Harlan and Loyall. You went up 119 to the Loyall turnoff, and youre absolutely right: Any Harlan Countian who turns the corner at Pineville changes languages! I first saw the light of day in Oneida, tn because that was the closest hospital & the road l.P. looPwas better Theyre still there. My Mom taught at SE Community College. In fact, when I was down there on business a couple of years ago, I saw a couple hanging out in front of rock store. We visited my grandparents every summer. And we DID bathe just like people from up north. The ones who love it love the depiction of rough and ready union brothers and sisters ready to wage war with the coal company thugs. Everywhere I go here in Ohio I run into people from Harlan or people who have relatives from there and some still living there. She talks about elections Above all else, it covers the 1930s strikes at the coal mine, which resulted in 11 deaths and earned the area the name Bloody Harlan. But what probably haunts the I have been told that he worked harder than 3 men. Right now, its in a big down turn. Were also the last of a breedand this applies to all of Appalachia. Clarences family was pretty small. BTW I live on Watts Creek and have most of my life..off and on. He used to go visit with Norman during the strike. Love your response, I live in central ky for a lot of years now, but when I can go home I stay at the Comfort Inn Hotel, it is a Blessing to us out of towners, I think this page is right on, and I dont like the way most people think of Harlan, we are just like anyone else, even if we have a little accent, awesome page, and I lived in Loyall a few years also, my mother died there, thanks for letting people know that its not all justified, although I have never watched a full episode, they are awful. Were originally from Letcher County and had to leave in 1995 due to the coal mines shutdown. When we went to high school, we identified as being from Loyallor Hall or Wallins. Loved the blog Ive told many people about the govment cheese. Webcharity bell guilford county schools; did choi woo shik serve in the military; is impeachment an effective check on the president; joseph moran jr son of thelma ritter. Pingback: Hometown Loyall-ty | Coal Troll's Blog. Most of my old mean crowd are dead. Never making any differences in us. Publicado el marzo 4, 2023 por marzo 4, 2023 por I do think this is good stuff. You hit home with many of your comments being born and raised in Eastern Kentucky, Sandy Hook, Elliott County to be exact. This has been the driver to be obsessive about work and a career. I have always been proud of being from Cawood in Harlan County. It was a thriving community in the 60s-70s. We were always suspicious of outsiders, especially those offering help. We could tell if you were from Ohio or Michigan or some other exotic place. I bet I heard them talking about you. It was tough to find two functioning seats together. It definitely has an Eastern Kentucky feel to it, but its out. Id hate to have to kill you. I know it well. There are differences: we`re north east, you`re south east. Who are we? They say that when they see I use Scotch Tape, staples or safety pins to fix a hem in a pair of pants. My momma cooked on a coal fired cookstove. I went for a while to Holy Trinity School, Harlan Elementary for one year, then to Hall before Cawood. People may had been living on Government cheese when you grew up and the first may had been like a amusement park, but all that has changed. First, there is a Holiday Express in Harlan, and a few other places to stay if you want to visit our town and county. Sweet. I will say Harlan is a great place to be from, I would not want to raise my kids there because of all the struggles I went through, and all the people I knew while growing up there. But I have lived in Harlan Co. since 1986 & now I couldnt imagine living any where else. Oh the cheese made the best grilled cheese, My wife from Ohio and my 2 children even loved it. I live in Nashville now, it seems like everyone here know someone from Harlan. Welcome to Harlan County! Ironically, my daughter found a boyfriend from Loyal(the ones in Georgetown are apparently not her type) so she visits him a lot. Thanks! It has to be kind of tough to get there or at the very least its just on the way to somewhere else. A man that loved Clarence had one brother Howard P. Leonard and Howard P and his wife Lucille had a son named Clarence Edwin Leonard. Accents. Took the jury about 5 minutes to find against us, lol. A friend of mine once drank a beer from a girls cowboy boot at the Lounge. Tons of great memories and good friends. Rest assured that no one in my family considers me a disgrace or embarrassment, but your concern is noted. We were just there in July , I love going back to visit. We used to sprinkle sugar over the cheese, before grilling them! Trust me on this one. Keep writing as I do enjoy it. Youd be surprised how many of us moved here from other places (quite a few from other countries), were welcomed as friends, made our homes here and raised our families here. | Coal Troll's Blog, https://thetrivialtroll.com/2012/03/10/adventures-in-hitchhiking/, ALL ABOARD THE NERVE GAS TRAIN! I live in the city now, and raised my daughters here. My mom always bought margarine but our housekeeper would get the butter and we thought it was strong. Nowadays, I would love to have some! Art worked in one of the maintenance departments (cant remember which one). They dont want to sound like Harlan or look like Harlan. My husband has worked in low coal where one had to crawl to get to your section. I lived in Cumberland for 2 years from ~ 1974-1976. These are small town people just like in every small town. That brings back fond memories. No Holiday Inn Express, Hampton Inn, etc. Maybe 700 or so now. I am a born and raised harlan countian. As usual John you nailed it!! Just discovered your blog. My maternal grandparents grew up in Black Star coal camp and Papaw taught at Hall High. I can connect with outlanders here in Georgetown by telling them, I was there the day that McDonalds opened..great times! If you live in Harlan, I cant say that I blame you. I was born in Pineville, Ky but grew up in Pathfork. I believe you will see that I have great affection for Harlan, much more than many of the people who still live there. Please received our heartfelt condolences. One day I kidding with a guy about something he was buying and at some point he says that hes from Mingo, West Virginia. Sometimes, the film would jam and you could watch it melt. I am a faithful Kentucky Basketball fan and follow them year in and year out, through good and bad GO BIG BLUE.. They had two fabulous sons who have college education with degrees in medical field and other fields. It rated right up there with his song about Jim and Tammy Baker, pretty good actually. My brother and I thought we had died and gone to Heaven. After all no one I know would go north of the Ky border to see. Parents moved to Dayton, OH in 63. Your dad was a really good teacher. I know that area, well, too. By the way, Cumberland had the Novo Theater and the drive-in theater as well. I used to try and derail the presumptions, now I just embrace them. Me, my brother and sister went to church every Sundaywe werent allowed to even go to the toilet until after church. We have exchanged information over the years. They had four children..and not once did he ever treat me nor my older brother like step-chilldren. The road to lexington did get better tho. We are related to at least one coal miner. I am a badass.. WebHarlan County, Kentucky: Basil Collins miner foreman and leader/manager of the scabs confronts picketers with a 45 in his right pocket. Didnt know him well, but I remember him. The good ones liked my Dad if not, oh well. To add to my previous comment above, my other Grandfather was Elijah Depew (nicknamed Lidge? Singing man in the beginning. We have corresponded back and forth for several years about our Leonard connections. I am simultaneously entertained and offended. ! Whatd I say? My Mom was a nurse at the hospital there (where I was born in 66). I went to Cumberland College, Austin Peay Univ for my first masters, Trevecca University for my doctorate, second masters, and administrative certification. But today, thanks to my daughter and another pool company, there are more privately owned pools at homes, per average, than in Fayette County (Lexington). The wrong side of the tracks to the town school crowd of the 1960s. I live across the mountains from Harlan in a little off the map place called Leatherwood in perry county. We like that its called Bloody Harlanby some folks even though that name is based upon events which occurred 70 years ago. Harlan County, Kentucky: Basil Collins miner foreman and leader/manager of the scabs confronts picketers with a 45 in his right pocket. Daughter of a preacher. I dont think I have an accent but get me out of Pike County and they all say I do. She was a great homemaker and was full of wit, wisdom and love. I went from a county of about 35,000 people spread over 1,000 square miles to a campus of 20,000 + crammed into a few blocks. Ive often heard that anywhere you go on Earth you can find someone from Harlan county. Pretty accurate for McCreary Co, as well. We live in McCreary Co now, so still SEKY. My life is very much divided into two partsbefore and after Harlan. Maybe they were hoping to see (or experience) some kind of catastrophe. WebLearn about Basil Collins: his birthday, age, zodiac sign, his family, and more. I have many good friends I have met through the Hall High Gamecock web site. We used to be territorial based on our schools. Some escape, but most dont. My mom was from Lynch and my dad from Without. I knew the Clarks well. Fun read. Then, they can come back and pay admission to see where they used to live. The culture you describe in Harlan is very similar to Leadville-only the accents are different-except for my dadhe never lost his.
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