They prophesied that they saw my moms brain cells starting to multiply, but of course we had to do our part, which involved extreme fasting, and money ( it always involves money for these evil wolves!). We had a great pastor. Im very careful and on guard when someone trying to give me a word from the Lord. Acts 17:10-12 NKJV This is my therapy. I have seen false prophetic words destroy peoples lives. I encourage you to set healthy boundaries with those who would heap guilt upon you for your life choices. One of the gifts of the Holy Spirit is discernment. God bless! weak, but I dreamt about having "faith to move mountains." As for the breathing, these kids are desperate for recognition and fame in churches, they mimic there idols; unfortunately Bill Johnson is held in high esteem among many young people. of a meeting. That is what Thess. As Christians we need to be a Berean and test everything by the Word of God in regards to what we hear, what we see, what we read as well as words from the Lord. The pastor also works with YWAM that has reference to the 7 spheres of influence (7 mountain mandate) language on their website. Thank you for sharing yours and please post it to your Facebook as well. more mainstream Pentecostal church. God bless you for writing your testimony. Anyways, you know this. Cheryl is this question for me or the lady who wrote this article? I can honestly say it felt like the bottom dropped from under me, and I didnt know what to believe anymore. The sense of relief was palpable. Instead of getting closer to God, I found myself I wasn't bold enough in my witness. Its VERY DANGEROUS to say God said so and so when He did not! And trust me I have had my share. It was time to join a more conservative group of Christians and yet still enjoy the fellowship of the Spirit. But you, dear friends, as you BUILD UP YOURSELVES in your most Holy Faith [in God's, , keep yourselves IN THE LOVE OF GOD, waiting expectantly for the MERCY of our Lord Jesus Christ for Eternal Life. If it is a bad Church leave and find one that lives and preaches the word. These three simultaneous events sent me running back to my bible. A strong delusion falls on them because they dont love the truth. I had a good 15 years or more away. Back then he was called a heretic today he would be condemned for touching the Lords anointed. The apathy of believers is truly astonishing as I watch wolves overtake the churches. But I just wanted to clarify things at least in my own understanding. What do we expect? Do you think women get pregnant due to peer pressure? Karen Wheaton later corrected Judy Jacobs request but it troubled me that a minister was that out of touch with God to request something so materialist, my body got hot with anger. Maybe what I had grown to love Thank you, its so wonderful to know we are not alone in our journey. The problem is instead of reading our word spending time in prayer finding a church were the bible is preached, where Jesus is invited into every day and service, we run after the next new thing., cds conferences, newest book, looking to that special speaker. The truth of the matter is most cannot discern for themselves because they lack true biblical knowledge. Congratulations on escaping the apostasy. This is the beginning of a wonderful journey. Due to their extreme legalism I felt that I was not getting the true message of the gospel, but instead indoctrinated by man-made rules. Maybe Im not sure if I meant to post under your specific comment. Yung Miami says she ready to correct her poor speech, thinks she sounds illiterate, 90 Day Fianc: The Other Way: Season 4, Episode 13 - Winds Do Not Blow As the Ships Wish, PrettiSusu Pregnant! After all, I I left a charismatic church myself in 1979 despite the warnings that Satan is trying to keep me from what God has. My destination is Heaven or bust! I learned to speak with confidence and passion in areas where I She tells me I will go straight to hell. It might take time, after three years I am still waiting for directions, but it doesnt matter. The surest route is sola scriptura. Hands raised utterly disconnected from God. Now she's Captain of the Atlanta Public Schools Police. You are coming out of a cult, so anger is one of the stages but I promise it gets better. Take time to heal and be kind to yourself. Let me tell you what type of disillusionment that sets a young person up for. Only by Gods grace, strength and help have I made it thus far. Hiking, talking to God. Now I know God. This is where I am in my walk with God. What a great article. Sad The doctrine at bethel is deplorable. This I know, God WILL lead me and He is my light and my salvation worthy of ALL honor and praise-not just on Sunday, not just when people can see me doing it, but every day as my life belongs to Him-for I am a bondservant of Christ! Welcome to discernment, and thank you for the courage to tell your story! This is the link, http://www.takeheed.info/index-for-assorted-articles/charismatic-type-issues/, Cecil Andrews Gods peace and love-. The Body of Christ must return to Gods Intelligent Design for the form and function of the Body as outlined in Scripture. (scripture alone) That was a hard lesson I learned this year. This is extremely important for young children. Please head to the nearest deliverance minister and get that religious spirit cast out of you. were many who volunteered their time, but paid staff members handled the bulk of the responsibilities. Also, context is key with a lot of scripture, as is language. Im going to Florida to visit my son and basically Ive told the Lord, bring it on, drown me. ive approached my pastor on several disagreements ive had with him n hes explanation of it was satisfactory, we have council members so if the pastor is out of order we report to them and then it gets sorted. The law, as Colossians 2:14-16, is gonenailed to the cross. But it doesnt make Gods wonderful grace and gifts any less relevant today. new city and new speaker, I hoped that maybe this would be "my night." I really long for our eyes to open as believers. Bible. Sounds like the biggest thing you dealt with were these false words of the Lord. BUT i have concerns so i am doing some research. God does speak to our heart and can speak through another brother or sister to us. My experience is this; dreams can be easily influenced by what we already want/dont want. But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: Unique. I thank God that He kept me and put it in my heart at an early age to study things out. There is a lot of things I can say about the false teaching of Calvinism and the murderous acts of John Calvin. there to help you "pray through" until you did. everything was OK. Pentecost is biblical and the things practised in charasmatic/pentecostal churches are find in the bible. There we started studying scripture but the practice was the same as my previous church. Calvinism, though not Cultic (but borderline) is a false teaching in itself which misrepresents the character of our wonderful Lord and His awesome plan of salvation. From here I ventured to Pennsylvania for a couple days to stay with another couple who had previously left our church and whose present church had dropped out of the I did my best to leave honorably and correctly, but it didn't matter. Over the years I found that God takes things away from us so that He can be our only Rock and Anchor. When you are leaving it can be overwhelming. God can speak to us by the Holy Spirit, guide and lead us into what He wants us to know or show us what to do or where we need to be. Your story is more common than you know. I Maybe I wasn't listening to the right music. The body of christ. I loved church fellowship and dressing up for church. Wow! 1. In that moment I said God Im singing these words to you but I dont mean it; help me to mean it And he did. I was a devoted follower of the Ramp, founded by Karen Wheaton featuring Perry stone (OCI ministries) Damon Thompson, Dutch Sheets the N.A.R crowd and many other famous ministers. The Catholic Church in effect falters when her members fall short of what they should be doing and believing. Charismatic used to be an OK word, though it sounded like a disease to me. Other prominent Calvinists like John Piper and Wayne Grudem are continuationists. Web89 views, 6 likes, 2 loves, 15 comments, 1 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from DD Memorial Baptist Church: DD Memorial Baptist Church was live. I found this message grab my attention instantly. the faith. I didn't Ultimately, I accepted a new job in another state and left Then blaming everyone else when were sick and spirituality unhealthy. which is false. We all belong tp eachother. I'm just playing Devil's Advocate here lol. It is important never to throw out the baby with the bathwater. You have to test everything, use discernment and wisdom. Mark, yes, some of the Sola Scriptura folk are Calvinist and/or Cessationists. Brother Dave, I was hearing 20 years ago how special MY generation was. (2 Tim 3:16-17). God loves you very much. May the Lord continue to lead and guide you by His Word. The straw that broke the camels back was when a super Christian guy I was dating and who had become deeply imbedded in this movement broke up with me because God told him too. True conversion repentance, forgiveness of sins, and surrender to the Lordship of Christ leads to transformed lives, exhibiting the grace, truth, love and joy of the One we profess to follow. I just so happen to read this from Acts 20, today: So after I quit a good job where I had it all going for me, my life started to fall apart. They are missionaries with one purpose and that is to show and share the love of Christ to the military troops around the world. Sorry you had bad experiences in Pentecostal circles. Loved your post and I cannot thank you enough for posting it! we certainly dont dance at worship songs, and arnt forced to be made to feel guilty about handing over any money, we also have audit meeting s to say were all the money has been spent. There were WebI left because a lot of their beliefs are unbiblical and sadly rooted in contradiction. When I have been looking for a new church or visiting one, I ask God to show me what is true and what is not true in the message I am hearing from the pulpit. God bless! I was raised in the Apostolic Church also. Im excited to read your testimony and I know how it feels. Our role is to draw people to Jesus . I can't really explain it all here because I'm just not that well spoken and articulate with my words. Christian fonts only! Search the scriptures and you will find Him there. I learned more about Israel and the feasts if God in Old Testament times in a few months listening to Perrys teachings than I ever have in my local non-denominational church. I simplify, of course. I recently left my church when there were some things creeping in..not spoken straight from the pulpitbut guest speakers and new ideas being implemented. I spent months alone, laying on the floor, broken, fasting, praying, weeping, calling out to God. But his rage against Charismatics was bordering on the psychotic. I searched out many testimonies when I was coming out for comfort and help. The final straw for me, and the reason I finally left my church of 25 years, was due to the lying and deceptive nature of the pastor. We are not the Spirits equal but rather, nothing more than dust. I can see where puresola is coming from. know what I wanted in a church, but I was absolutely clear on what I DIDN'T want. They claim you are speaking out against the Lords anointed. If I could only stick with it long enough, I believed that all those questions So weve moved on from casting the proverbial boulders onto all things Pentecostal to the SDA now have we? Offended people sometimes have a wrong perception when no real offense exists. I looked up to people like Benny Hinn, Joyce Meyer, Kenneth Copeland, etc. I see now I was very wrong. The bible warns 17 times in the NT against wolves/falseteachers butministers selectively pickfeel good scriptures and ignore others; you know, the ones that bring them under scrutiny or accountability .Sadlymost Christians dont know bible scripture so they believe pretty much anything the preacher says. In this movement ministers are worshiped like infallible gods above reproach. It is simply this: 2:11 is talking about. The Lord is calling his children out from the delusion and false teaching of the pentecostal movement, one by one. They may leave out repetitive "hallelujahs,' "we worship you Lord" and/or "praise God almighty" and then save the Amen until the end of their prayer. I would describe the modern church as apostate and I have left the harlot church system in my rear view. just as important (or perhaps even more important) than believing correctly. He has never spoken in tongues, but I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that God is working in him and through him. Not sure whats so bad about 7-M. Lovely married couple, FGM in Sierra Leone: I believe my girlfriend died because her genitals were cut. A controversial debate about racism in the United Pentecostal Church International is now raging in the denomination after an interracial couple who led one of They used drama and technology and Ive personally spoken with her on many occasions. We see it across the nation just look at Hillsong! I just wrote a 10,000 word essay using Scripture as the basis on the subject, The Importance of the New Testament Doctrine of Selfless Service and Disciple Making.. The sad fact is so many within our churches today often love these hyper-emotional camps, such as; Bethel, IHOP, Christine Caine (from Propel) Graham Cooke, Mike Bickle, Rick Joyner, Peter Wagner and all the so called self proclaimed prophets and apostles, etc. always meetings and programs -- yet was difficult to build relationships. God continues to give me beauty for ashes, strength and grace to forgive. I also am blogging about it. We are Christians that worship on the seventh day of the week. Why I left the Pentecostal Church.. After much soul searching & years of seeking God there are good reasons for my leaving the Assemblies of God church.. experienced up until that point would be nothing compared to what was to come and then I wouldn't have people in Really, all believers have the Holy Spirit and should be led by the Spirit of God and not by people saying I have a word for you. Generation X marks the spot was the trending evangelical phrase in those days. This only means something to people old enough to remember the time before digital cameras, when you took a roll of film and had to have it developed into photographs. That said, does that mean God does not speak to us today? God bless https://youtu.be/sJDgZg7H35c. This is the conditioning that goes on in the charismatic/Pentecostal church. Makes me sick. But those things are not the test for discernment. I still attend Baptist and non denomination churches(my mothers side of the family are Thats a great question, In that statement Im saying we should not elevate our experiences above scripture. (There seem to be a lot) it is sporadic. I got over 1000 shares on fb alone even though I only got a few likes, so you truly never know who needs to hear it. My desire was balance and discernment. church was all that mattered. It is so important that we know the scriptures and keep those scriptures in context so we can discern what is truth and what is not . Very interesting to read about Calvinism in particular as one of the most vehement opponents of post apostolic biblical manifestations is John MaCarthur, a well known Calvinist. Thats why it is so important to share our stories. Thanks. There were no dramatic meetings or guilt trips when I left the mainstream Pentecostal church. It leads to a new moral code at odds with the worlds, and it will not be acceptable to that same world that prefers darkness rather than light; it is incomprehensible to it. If you ever want to chat, let me know and will be glad to listen. The next person can easily say your interpretation or my interpretation is "twisting the Word of God". that be not as though they were." If there were a proper fear of the people of God, we would live very differently. Judgement and wrath can be expected to anyone who teaches another gospel. Jesus said the Holy Spirit would teach us and bring to remembrance things He said. I learned to hide my symptoms and act like So, I resonate with and appreciate your story. how to replace rotted wood on porch roof; a r leak funeral home vandalized; Accounting. Sure there is false teaching and darkness but as Christians we are to take a stand for the truth and allow God to use us to reach a lost and hurting world. I kept up to date on things going on in the charismatic movement; Scandal after scandal with International House of Prayer (IHOP), Morning star, Hillsong ministries and the list goes on.It was a pattern, one that bothered me.One incident occurred when Judy Jacobs a famous TBN minister got up at the Ramp in a prideful arrogant tone anddemanded the young kids at the Ramp (Youth Ministry) dig down deep in their pockets to give money for an offering so Karen Wheaton could buy a Bentley!
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